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From: Royce J. Myers III <ufowatchdog@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:37:11 -0700 Fwd Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:24:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Crop Circles: The UFOIN Response - Myers >Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:38:10 -0400 (EDT) >From: Joe Murgia <Ufojoe1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Crop Circles: The UFOIN Response >To: updates@sympatico.ca >>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:01:31 +0100 >>From: Jenny Randles <nufon@currantbun.com> >>Subject: Crop Circles: The UFOIN Response >>To: Updates@sympatico.ca >>The problem with crop circle samples is that there is little, if >>any, independent confirmation of the results. Further, no real >>attempt is evident to study "ordinary" wheat throughout the >>stages of its growth for comparison with "real" crop circle >>abnormalities. It would be interesting to compare "real" circle >>samples with those from lodging, animal disturbance, >>sclerotinia, rust, etc. >Why would it be interesting? You guys have already made up your >minds it seems. Why don't YOU do the testing and _you_ find the >scientists willing to look at it? I agree with Joe. Why haven't you conducted such a study? Dr.Levengood has indeed done extensive studies regarding crop formations. He has compared the obvious area where the formation has taken place and he utilizes several control samples from the surrounding area to compare it with it. Dr.Levengood has also grown several specimens from seeds and has compared the growth of affected seeds with the growth of control seeds. >>Our work has been extensively published and so is readily >>available to check. >Could you tell us what peer reviewed journals your work has been >published in? I would like to read it. As far as I know, Dr. Levengood is the _only_ person to have scientifically peer reviewed papers published on this subject. >>Ask yourself this. Why would an alien intelligence spend >>hundreds of years writing pictures in fields - specifically >>locating most in one part of the world of late - and create a >>seemingly all too human pattern of marks, game playing, even >>punning? Would you care to tell me that? You seem to be some kind of an expert on alien intelligence here... <snip> >>What is needed to take seriously any contention that aliens >>create circles is the evidence for some clearly structured >>intelligently created pattern that was done in such a way that >>humans could not possibly have created it without detection. Or >>indeed one that left new science (eg the formula for an >>anti-gravity drive or a cure for cancer might be a good place to >>start). Then I would ask that you produce evidence that shows exactly how some humans are altering the structure of these formations at a cellular level. Please show me the person that is carrying around a microwave generator large enough to zap a formation that is several hundred feet in size. As for the alien part of this, not everyone is screaming aliens... <snip> >>Are we really saying that the best a civilisation from another >>star system can do is spend years doodling in a few crop fields >>with images of whales, geometric shapes and pretty patterns? >Do you know what they are thinking? If you do, please tell us. >This is such bad scientific thinking. Actually, the word science >doesn't even belong in that sentence. Speculation, guess work, >trying to read ETs mind, etc.. Bascially, a joke and an insult >to our intelligence. Anyone here with a degree in the area of extraterrestrial psychology, would you please raise your hands. Okay, that takes care of that... >>Where do these wise aliens come from - the planet moron? >I will refrain from responding to that one because it's just so >juvenile. I'd step in here, but the Joe pretty much covered it there... Some of us simply are saying that several of the formation are simply mysterious. While some are the work of humans, many remain anomalous... Regards, Royce J. Myers III eXposé: The Watchdog of UFOlogy - "Don't Trip On Your Open Mind" eXposé News http://home.sprintmail.com/~rjm3 UFO Hall o' Shame http://home.earthlink.net/~ufowatchdog (UFO Dirtbag of the Month for August 2000 - beCAUS you demanded it!)
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