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From: Royce J. Myers III <ufowatchdog@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:58:12 -0700
Fwd Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 03:01:19 -0400
Subject: Re: CAUS Files Appeal Notice


 >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:23:25 -0400 (EDT)
 >From: Pat McCartney <ElPatricio@aol.com>
 >Subject: Re: CAUS Files Appeal Notice
 >To: updates@sympatico.ca

 >>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 03:11:45 -0400 (EDT)
 >>From: Royce Myers >ufowatchdog@earthlink.net>
 >>Subject: Re: CAUS Files Appeal Notice
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto >updates@sympatico.ca>

 >>Thanks for the incredible insight ;-}  I just find it peculiar
 >>that a guy rakes in $10G to file an appeal in federal court and
 >>is then off on a vacation. While everyone has a right to earn a
 >>living, how much does it cost to file a federal appeal?

 >I'm not sure if you got up on the wrong side of the bed, Royce,
 >or simply have a grossly distorted view of how nonprofit groups
 >work. But your criticism of Peter Gersten is misguided and the
 >epitome of a cheap shot.

 >Peter just finished a lawsuit trying to pry loose information
 >out of a government that is manifestly unwilling to release it.
 >When that was unsuccessful, Peter filed an appeal, an action
 >that takes some effort, even if the filing is an empty shell
 >with the details to be filled in later.

 >And the fund-raiser you seem to be in a froth about would also
 >take work -- for organization, tickets, marketing and so forth.
 >Having done a little fund-raising, I have to laugh at your
 >characterization of Peter "raking in" $10,000. It ain't that
 >easy, babe.

 >I have not worked for a nonprofit organization before, but as
 >they say, some of my best friends have. The work itself is not
 >so different from duties with for-profit corporations, with the
 >exception that those working for nonprofits often have a passion
 >for the agency's cause that transcends such considerations as
 >salary and benefits.

 >While some large nonprofit agencies have high-paid executives
 >(Larry, I believe United Way was paying around $400,000 for its
 >executive director), I sincerely doubt that Peter is rolling in
 >dough. I for one am appreciative of his efforts and am grateful
 >he had a chance to take some time off over the Memorial Day
 >weekend to enjoy his family and friends.

 >I hope you also had a chance to spend time with your family and
 >friends, Royce.

Pat,

I'm hardly in a 'froth' about this. That's the problem with
e-mail, too many people make the wrong interpretations about the
text. If you'll notice I put a little smiley face at the end of
the sentence and, gee whiz, the smiley face thing was suppose to
be winking. Oh no, I must have gotten up on the wrong side of
the bed again... By the way, my name is Royce, not babe. I live
in Oregon, not Hollywood.

I simply made an observation based on my past experience with
ol' Pete. Guys that tell you how every day is a vacation for
them and then wind up begging for money just don't click too
well with me. Of course, you not knowing the extent of my
personal experience with ol' Pete may hamper you from completely
undertanding my past and current critiques of him and many other
so-called UFO proponents. I can't hold you accountable for what
you aren't aware of.

As for your comment about a 'cheap shot', I call them like I see
them. A guy starts raising cash to file an appeal, gets the
money and then takes off on vacation. Everyone deserves a break,
but that was just a little too much.

I've invested at least over $8G of my own money (not to mention
my time) into UFOs. This doesn't count the time I've actually
taken off work (without pay) or the time I've put into it. Maybe
I should hold a fund raiser, eh?

Anyone that gets in this field knows you won't make a living do
it unless you lecture like hell and write a few books or you
host a UFO conference that pulls in people.

Your assumption of my not understanding how non-profit
organizations work is just that, an _assumption_. I worked for
Shriner's and the March of Dimes doing fund raising.

If someone wants to earn a living then they need to get a job.
Pete's an attorney, why doesn't he go back to doing that? Oh
wait, he's retired...

Anyone who thinks a lawsuit is going to blow the lid off of what
the government knows or doesn't know about UFOs is smoking
crack. This should be evident by the huge brick wall ol' Pete
keeps running in to. Of course, the logic is to keep throwing
money at the problem... until you run out. Or you can keep
running face first into the same brick wall until your face is
bloody. Hey, then there could be a fund raiser for plastic
surgery...

Regards,

Royce J. Myers III
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